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what to do against a Man with shield ^^
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| Betongmus | Date: Friday, 2007-10-05, 5:48 PM | Message # 1 |
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| Hello all, i've noticed that we have alot of good warriors in the guild, and i was wondering, what do to as an Archer, because my main tactic is to try kite em, so i can get a clear shot, but its hard, because they got charge etc.
So what should i do next time i meet a warrior? Betongmus..
You better stay out of the darkness. because true corruption and fall is my domain
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| Raziel | Date: Friday, 2007-10-05, 6:07 PM | Message # 2 |
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| I would recomend running :P I never played as an archer much, but from my experience as a warrior, i got kiled lots of times if the archer was good with triple or if he was on some narow stairs and i couldnt zig zag, but if your out in the open, i cant help you there, since i kill most archers that are in the open :P Hope this helps a bit.
Vae Victis
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| godfather[-CA-] | Date: Saturday, 2007-10-06, 4:12 AM | Message # 3 |
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| Against a warrior? Well it depends on you as well. Say for example if your a pure sniper of an archer (don't like close combat, only want far distance etc) Or if you like close combat such as myself. So I can help with both sides of it really. 1. Warriors that block: The raised shields will block ANY arrow that is from a medium distance and on out, no matter where they are looking. That is inless they turn to the back or the side. 2. Close range is basically the only time you can take a warrior out. That or they are fighting another enemy and you decide to kill them  either way you hit them haha. Remember the weak spots of the warrior (head and feet/legs) At medium distance and on in. They must crouch or jump to block the shots. Most likely and hardly have I even seen them do it. So always try to get that first shot in for major damage ( let them come to you with a full knocked draw for your arrow) That is just how you deal damage, but you wanted to know how to kill them am I right? The best ways are as follows. 1. Bramble (They can't hit you if they can't really move, plus they are an easier target)
2. Fire (just hit them for either 50-60 damage and run away, untill they are about done burning, then do it again for the kill)
3. Drill shot (85 pts max 50 pts minimum. Talk about an easy kill
4. Flare (for a lower level archer, flare does a lil extra damage, but remember a lil slower arrow and not as much range)
5. Poison (only use it before they lock on, then strafe around them, that way they can't really lock on, When they are poisoned there lock on range is decreased/ Lastly, combinations work hand in hand as well. If your a moderate level say around 5, bramble them for 45 damage and then full knock a fire arrow or all in all just be created with High damage weapons Hope it helps haha GodFather[-CA-] P.S. Sorry if my tactics scared the EyE warriors a bit :P
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| Turalyon | Date: Saturday, 2007-10-06, 9:11 AM | Message # 4 |
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| Well, those were good tactics ... but what about if warriors do the zig zag?, you can't even hit them, unless you're lucky, and if they acctualy hit you, you lose your stanced arrow
That's how good warriors play  , not just using shield and jumping
Your reasoning is excellent -- it's only your basic assumptions that are wrong.
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| Betongmus | Date: Saturday, 2007-10-06, 4:43 PM | Message # 5 |
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| Well, thanks, this has helped me really much. Ill try all tactics, and sort out the best way to kill em, but its right, as archer as soon as they get close we are fucked unless theres stairs and wall that you can run around... Thanks again for the tip Betongmus...
You better stay out of the darkness. because true corruption and fall is my domain
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| godfather[-CA-] | Date: Sunday, 2007-10-07, 7:21 AM | Message # 6 |
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| heh, the zig zag is not luck to hit. A little harder true, but remember, if they zig zag. They can not hit you inless they lock on When they lock the stop the zig zag automatically, that is a good time to shoot them. If thats not the case then, they are zigzagging. just run away from them. They will blow all there stamina doing that and making it take longer to get to you as well. Making Archers faster than warriors just cause they are running back and forth :P Though you guys just want to hit them ehh? The best way is to just aim straight, they have to cross the middle point sometime, and they cross the middle twice. So actually its more statistical than anything. Here I will do a lil diagram :P X "you"
0 "warrior" okay so you have the warrior doing this, as you stand still They are running back and forth back and forth. If you think about it though, they cross the middle of your sight twice rather than just once on the sides so it would look like this Warrior direction of movement >>>, <<< ---------------------->>>>0
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---------------------------0<<<<<< ---------------------------X If you don't try to go over it and think about live combat, i'm sure it will come to you. And if you do get it, look at the chances you would have to hit them compared to the time it would take to get to you? you can just fire a few straight arrows and be sure to get at least 1 hit or so, and when they want to strike you, you evade them with the tactics mentioned above. They must lock on before they can hit you, and if they don't use lock on such as me, then your already a much harder target to hit anyways :P Hope it helps again GodFather[-CA-] Added (2007-10-07, 7:21 Am)
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| Betongmus | Date: Sunday, 2007-10-07, 6:46 PM | Message # 7 |
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| Yea i actually helped abit, thanks again, ill try as soon as i meet an warriro, thanks again for all the tips
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| godfather[-CA-] | Date: Tuesday, 2007-10-09, 0:11 AM | Message # 8 |
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| And if all fails, you still have double and triple shot :), but i don't recommend it haha
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| Raziel | Date: Thursday, 2007-10-11, 9:47 PM | Message # 9 |
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| Or you can just play a mage and if a warrior attacks you, just kil yourself and him with you :P
Vae Victis
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| godfather[-CA-] | Date: Saturday, 2007-10-13, 4:32 AM | Message # 10 |
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| or, if you decent at mage..... kill him before he even *gets* to you
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| Levitation | Date: Thursday, 2007-11-08, 1:28 PM | Message # 11 |
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| Well i dont prefer archers, but with a mage you can simply shoot on the shield and he'll take the same damage, but if he got anti-magic armor it will take less damage everywhere on the body/shield.
The life isn't ment to end, its ment to proceed...
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| godfather[-CA-] | Date: Thursday, 2007-11-08, 10:20 PM | Message # 12 |
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| What shield are you talking about? The Safe Guard? Or the sword/shield? If it is the normal shield, then yes full damage... in less anti magic, but it really does not help..... as for safeguard if you hit it, no damge u must use the "spalsh damage" inorder to kill them
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